Excessive Use of Open Breast Biopsies: An Interview
Too many U.S. women are having the more drastic, more expensive open biopsy once a mammogram detects an abnormality, according to a new study conducted at one academic medical center. This is diagnostic overkill given the facts that 80% of all such breast abnormalities eventually prove to be benign and that minimally invasive needle biopsy techniques have been available for years.
Overuse of the open biopsy means that women’s health is unnecessarily compromised because the procedure can have serious complications. The development of scar tissue, for example, may inhibit the diagnosis of a future breast cancer. Incredibly, 1.6 million breast biopsies are performed yearly in the U.S. If this study is representative of the rest of the country, nearly 40% are open biopsies.
“Where’s the Outrage?” asked surgeon Melvin J. Silverstein, MD. In the editorial that accompanied the new study, he reminded readers that the women’s movement of the mid-1970s eventually put an end to the drastic one-step diagnosis/treatment procedure. Up to that era, women with a breast lump had to sign a consent form before going under anesthesia, allowing their surgeons to determine malignancy on the basis of a quick frozen biopsy and to do an immediate radical mastectomy when results showed cancer. (Years later, the frozen-section biopsy was acknowledged to be unreliable.)
Now there’s another pressing need for advocacy, says Dr. Silverstein, Director of the Breast Program at Hoag Memorial Hospital Presbyterian, Newport Beach, California, and professor of surgery at the Keck School of Medicine, University of Southern California. He is interviewed by Maryann Napoli, Center for Medical Consumers.
MN: A shockingly high 40% of the breast biopsies done at one Manhattan teaching hospital were open (excisional) biopsies, according to the new study, conducted by Emily M. Clarke-Pearson, MD, and colleagues at Beth Israel Medical Center and Columbia University Medical Center (January 2009, Journal of the American College of Surgeons). How can a woman tell whether she truly requires an open biopsy?
MJS: She needs to know that well over 90% of all breast abnormalities can be biopsied with a needle. Very few people need an open biopsy. For example, if the abnormality is in an extremely difficult place, such as right on the chest wall, a needle biopsy may not be possible. Another possibility is that the patient may not be able to lie on her abdomen thereby making stereotactic biopsy nearly impossible. More and more, needle biopsies are being done with ultrasound guidance and they’re much easier.
MN: You were appalled to learn that so many women in this study with palpable or mammography-detected abnormalities were going straight to the operating room for diagnostic open surgical breast biopsy. What is the typical scenario?
MJS: If the radiologist has control of the patient and the radiologist is an interventionalist—that is, one who knows how to put needles in, then he or she will do a needle biopsy*. But the radiologists often do not control the patients in the U.S. The patients “belong” to the referring doctor. Many breast centers won’t do a mammogram without a doctor’s prescription. In general, a patient goes to a radiologist with a doctor’s prescription that says “bilateral mammography”. If an abnormality is found, the radiologist typically calls the referring doctor, and most of the time, he or she will say, “go ahead and do the biopsy.” But often that referring doctor is a surgeon, and he or she will do an open surgical biopsy because they do not know how to do a needle biopsy.
MN: Breast biopsies are so lucrative., I assume there’s a turf war between the radiologists and the surgeons.
MJS: Yes, when the needle biopsy came along in the early 1990s, the radiologists captured the market, and the surgeons didn’t care. But as time went on, the surgeons said, “I used to do 280 biopsies a year, but now I’m not doing any because the radiologists do them all. I’d better learn.” So the American Society of Breast Surgeons formed, mainly to teach surgeons how to do ultrasound-guided biopsies and stereotactic biopsies. Now there are probably 3,000-4,000 surgeons in U.S. who are competent to do needle biopsies, but there also [another] 30,000 surgeons who do open breast biopsies because they don’t know how to do needle biopsies. It comes down to this: If I don’t know how to do a needle biopsy, then I either have to send the patient to someone who does or do an open biopsy myself.
MN: And the cost differences?
MJS: I used to do 225 open biopsies a year for diagnosis and now I do only two or three a year. An open biopsy in New York City is probably $2,000 to $3,000 [just the surgeon’s fee]. If I lived there, I would have given up $600,000 in billing fees**. So you can understand the motivation. A lot of surgeons now know how to do needle biopsies and those who know how will do it. Open biopsy costs rise to $5,000 to $7,000 once you include the operating room fee and the anesthesia, which can be either local or general. A needle biopsy in New York City is about $2,000. In a smaller city, it will probably be between $1,000 and $1,500.
MN: There are plenty of downsides to the open biopsy besides the expense.
MJS: I’m a professor of surgery. I get a lot of referred patients and half have already had open surgical biopsies. Many times the incision was done in wrong place, and it compromises what I’m going to do, or the margins are not done well because the biopsy was done simply as a diagnostic procedure, not as a therapeutic procedure.. On the other hand, when I get a patient who has had a needle biopsy, nothing has been compromised. Studies have shown that in competent hands, the needle biopsy is just as accurate as the open biopsy.
MN: And many inconveniences are avoided.
MJS: Yes, when a woman has a needle biopsy, she is in and out in one or two hours. She doesn’t need someone to drive her home; she can go to work; she can lift things. When she has an open biopsy, the wound has to heal. She has to be careful of what she does for a few days or a week.
MN: You seemed to be counting on consumer advocacy to change doctors’ practices.
MJS: Yes, the study was done at Beth Israel Hospital, an academic medical center where the work should be top of the line and it’s in New York City, which has some of the most demanding consumers of medicine in the world. And yet nearly 40% were getting open biopsies [in 2007]—that’s outrageous. Once women all over America know about this, that number will drop precipitously.
MN: Your editorial and the study are circulating on the Internet among breast cancer advocates.
MJS: Remember about 10 or 15 years ago, there was a new procedure called sentinel node biopsy. Instead of doing a full axillary node dissection [removal of 20 or so nodes near the armpit], the surgeon could remove only one or two lymph nodes. And surgeons said, “We don’t know if it works.” And you know what happened? Women heard about it and they demanded it. And if the surgeon didn’t offer it, she came down the street to me. The surgeons were losing their patients so they learned how to do it. Now everyone does it.
*Dr. Silverstein said that the term needle biopsy refers to several different minimally invasive techniques including core biopsy, vacuum-assisted biopsy, ultrasound-assisted biopsy (most common and easiest to perform) and the MRI-assisted biopsy (most difficult and least common).
** Billing fee is different from what the physician actually receives. According to one New York City breast surgeon, Medicare and many insurance companies will reimburse only 20% of the billing fee.
Maryann Napoli, Center for Medical Consumers© February 2009
More on Breast Biopsy
One co-author of the breast biopsy study is Susan K. Boolbol, MD, Chief, Appel-Venet Comprehensive Breast Service and Director, Breast Surgery Fellowship, Beth Israel Medical Center, New York City. In a telephone interview Dr. Boolbol was asked whether her study is representative of care in the rest of the country.
SKB: Yes, I do think so. First, keep in mind that the overwhelming majority of breast abnormalities are benign and the introduction of new needle biopsy techniques means that women do not have to go the operating room for diagnosis any more.
MN: But your study was done at one teaching hospital. Do we know how women are treated in the real world?
SKB: When you look at our study, you will see that we have three separate sets of physicians. First, the academic breast surgeons like me; second, the breast surgeons in private practice who don’t work for the hospital, but perform surgery there; and third, the general surgeons who do all types of surgery, including breast surgery.
MN: It does provide a window into what’s going on in the real world. During the seven-month study period, the academic breast surgeons did only 10% of their breast biopsies as open biopsies; compared with the breast surgeons in private practice (35%) and general surgeons (37%).
SKB: Another study showed that the majority of women with breast cancer in New York State are not operated on by breast surgeons. That could be true of the rest of the country. Educating women is the whole issue raised by our study. [If told they should have an open biopsy] they need to ask the question: Is there another way to do the biopsy? Women should know that the operating room is for treatment, not diagnosis.
Maryann Napoli, Center for Medical Consumers©
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